When Exit133 first launched in its current form, there weren’t that many blogs around town. As the months ticked by, a few more hardcore Tacomans started writing online. Then, the daily and weekly newspapers began hosting and/or expanding ‘blogs’ as a way to join the daily T-town discussion. As Tacoma bloggers, we all seem to be striving to define who we are and what we write about. Finding a unique voice takes some time. My hope is that we can mature as a group community, work together a bit and also give credit where credit is due.
Cite Your Sources
If you reference a discussion on another site, link to that site.
If somebody tips you off to a story, give them credit…if they want it.
If you see something on another site you like and write your own piece about the subject, reference the origin of your inspiration.
This last line is where it seems our community may have some challenges. Over the past few months, there have been repeated instances where one site writes about a semi-obscure topic or event and then another website will write about the same topic.
As one print journalist told me, Exit133 has, on occasion, been the origin for story ideas. While he can’t use me as a source, he can use me as “inspiration”. It makes sense to me and, generally speaking, that’s cool. Particularly when I get a thank you!
The etiquette and rules in the online world are a bit different. In the online world, we are also supposed to give credit to our inspirations. Of course, the print media is a different game entirely, but if the print media folks are truly interested in being good ‘bloggers’, this is something they need to get better at.
For example, let’s say that Jamie at ThriceAllAmerican.com writes about a city council meeting that he attended and the discussion that occurred. I read his posting, find a copy of the meeting minutes, and then write my own commentary. The good etiquette thing to do would be to use a “(via ThriceAllAmerican.com)” or some other way to show that he gave me the inspiration. To ignore that Jamie gave me the idea is viewed as poor blogging etiquette.
As another example, if James at Tacomaness writes about a friend of mine who is doing something cool in Tacoma and I then write about it, the good etiquette thing to do is give James the credit for inspiring me to put it online too.
Since T-Town bloggers are all on the same listserves, announcement lists, and the writers share many contacts, it is possible that more than one writer could develop a similar story at the same time. This is not a problem at all, although it is proper etiquette to give credit if we read it on another site first. A problem develops when original ideas suddenly flow from site to site without citation. It’s rude and we’re a small community.
I am confident that we can all play well together. Play ball!
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Citing sources is important. If original material or breaking material is posted on a blog why can’t/shouldn’t a print journalist note their source? How is this different from receiving an informed tip?
I’m not a journalist, so I don’t know the rules/ethics/etc, but it seems silly to not give credit where due simply because it was something posted on a blog.
I follow a political blog that does some original investigating into corruption scandals. Newspapers of record (WaPo & NYT) did cite his website, though I don’t recall the exact articles or citations. The same blog also began tracking a list of those Democratic representatives & senators supporting social security phase out as the Fainthearted Faction. This information was sourced in newspapers around the country, including our TNT.
Closer to home Kevin Freitas was addressing the naming issue on his blog and was cited repeatedly in the newspaper.
Please help me understand why print publications “can’t use [you] as a source.” For better or worse, credit where credit is due.
1 | Posted by DavidS | Aug 30, 08:29 AM
Please help me understand why print publications “can’t use [you] as a source.†For better or worse, credit where credit is due.
It’s the difference between reporting on something and being a source for something. Exit133, other blogs, and newspapers generally aren’t original source material. Our friends, contacts, and tipsters provide us with that, but they aren’t available to other reporters if they choose to remain anonymous. When was the last time you saw a “as reported by (insert competing news source here)” in a print publication.
Kevin’s Pacific Plaza thing was original because Kevin’s site was the story.
The reporter I mentioned above will see a story on Exit133 that hasn’t been reported, will call his own sources that would know, then writes the story based on his sources. I then get a thank you email. I’m not saying it’s exactly right, but it’s better than simply taking a story and not returning my emails…
Isn’t it fun to watch – and be a part of – evolution as it’s happening?
Great post, Derek. As the TNT reporters have taken to the blogosphere, one of the awkward things they now accept is that it is OK and, in fact, encouraged to link to other sites, even if they are seen as “competition” (as in the Seattle papers).
It doesn’t happen in print often, of course. Our paper has proven much more likely to credit a local blog for a tip than another newspaper, as Kevin’s frequent ink illustrates.
The blogosphere is, if nothing else, brutally transparent. There’s no hiding so bloggers and reporters should realize that if they consistently refuse to cite sources of inspiration, they’ll get called to the carpet. If common courtesy doesn’t motivate you to give credit where credit is due, the spectable of a public “outing” probably will.
3 | Posted by Mark Briggs | Aug 30, 09:21 AM
I think that’s the critical question: Is it original? If it is original material – even if it’s through an anonymous source – it’s still original.
If a reporter sees a blog article, does some research to generate additional/alternative original information (from their own sources), then they have generated original content and should charge forward with it.
If no additional information is dug up or if critical information is from a blog, that should be sourced.
And I absolutely agree with you that it’s always nice to get a note when you generate a lead.
(As a side note, your “as reported by [competition]” scenario does happen on national stories, particularly when local media initially breaks them. To me this would be similar to local media picking up original information from a blog and running with it. For a local example see Brame & TNT, for a national example see Cunningham & San Diego Union Tribune.)
Regardless, this is something the print people should address directly with some ethical guidelines that respect everyone’s research & sources. I guess if blogs would just restrict themselves to opining & no research, there wouldn’t be any issues. But that wouldn’t be very much fun either.
Woohoo! for original research!
4 | Posted by DavidS | Aug 30, 09:21 AM
Derek:
This is a good starting point for the community. What I think will be interesting with Feed Tacoma is that several of us may spin the same story—you picked up the CEOs for Cities Report, which I then spun on our site (while crediting you and linking back to your site). So we’ll get different takes on the same issue, with appropriate linkages and references to each other.
Well said Derek.. I also agree with Mark that it’s a evolution of sorts and people need awareness and I think this is a great way to start that. Most of us in the blogosphere are not being paid to blog so there is a certain amount of pride we take in what we post and at the minimum all we ask is to have acknowledgment of our efforts which helps to keep us doing what we do (the hard work).
6 | Posted by James@Tacomaness | Aug 30, 09:56 AM
I think FeedTacoma presents a great place for the overlap. I agree with Patrick that different bloggers may spin things differently but having related content/posts adds to a story’s flavor.
Speaking of flavor, a good example would be restaurant reviews/experiences. If I write about a place I tried out I fully encourage someone else to write about the same place from their own experience. It only lends to better info for the reader once they seek it out.
In the end, if we keep things light, enjoy writing what we do, and practice a little blogging common sense we’ll be in good shape. If someone forgets a credit link once in a while, let’s not dwell on it. Blogging isn’t my job, I don’t get paid for it so if it’s bogged down with too many “guidelines” it won’t be fun anymore.
7 | Posted by KevinFreitas | Aug 30, 09:57 AM
“a good example would be restaurant reviews/experiences… better info for the reader once they seek it out.â€
Kevin, I would hardly categorize a restaurant posting to original analysis regarding a pertinent community news issue.
â€...practice a little blogging common sense we’ll be in good shape.â€
I do agree with this and commend Derek for taking the time to explain, for those like me who aren’t already versed in this arena.
8 | Posted by Michael | Aug 30, 10:19 AM
With the review example I’m speaking more about what people write about rather than the issue of how credit is given.
It’s good to remind folks to give credit where credit’s due, true. For me, I just follow the “do unto others” rule which works pretty well.
I want blogging in the area to be a welcoming process so anyone interested in jumping into the local blogging scene won’t be intimidated by any rules or guidelines set by anyone currently doing it. The best part about blogging is how freeform it can be in how it allows an individual to express or relay something in their own voice.
9 | Posted by KevinFreitas | Aug 30, 11:35 AM
I can’t believe I was unaware of that there was a developing T-town blog community developing until a few weeks ago. One of the reasons I like the sourcing is because it introduces me to new people and information (not unlike all the blogs linked in this thread).
Why I like blogs: relative transparency, quick information, opportunities for feedback, low cost of entry, and the shorthand nature and quick read style.
This discussion will be interesting to see develop more fully over the next few years.
10 | Posted by DavidS | Aug 30, 01:56 PM
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