So it looks like St. Helens will be heading down the hill… at least this week.
The Economic Development Committee granted a “Do Pass” recommendation this afternoon for a one-way southbound traffic configuration along St. Helens without the crosswalk in front of the Tacoma Municipal Building. The Resolution of Intent will go before City Council in early May.
Parking. Changes in parking. Changes in street direction. You are some opinionated folks. This came up in more meetings than I can remember…
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I was at the hearing. Great result.
I would estimate 80 percent of the traffic on St. Helens travels southbound. This configuration will allow people to continue to take the shortest route into downtown as they do now. The ultimate question was whether downtown needed a road to take people into downtown or a road to take people out of downtown.
Councilmember Bill Evans indicated at an earlier hearing that St. Helens has been the traditional “entrance to the downtown.”
Staff introduced two different southbound options. One was the layout shown on the city web page (option 2A) and the other showed the southbound direction with additional parking. The park like areas at the end of St. Helens at the intersection of Market were the same on both but option 2A had “traffic calming” devices in the middle of St. Helens and a walkway and had 9 less on-street parking spaces than option 2B.
On-street parking is generally recognized as “gold” by urban planners.
Its nice to see they preserved as much as they could. However, the one-way direction will still allow the park like area at the intersection of St. Helens and Market.
I thought the problem with southbound, one way traffic, was that it encouraged drivers to take the turn like a freeway on-ramp. People really fire down it. If traffic went the other way, that wouldn’t be a problem…
I’m not saying this is a make-or-break reason to make it one way northbound, but I’m curious if this was part of the discussion?
2 | Posted by Erik Hanberg | Apr 10, 07:46 PM
People really fire down it. If traffic went the other way, that wouldn’t be a problem…but I’m curious if this was part of the discussion?
The traffic flow issues certainly were a large part of the on-going discussion.
The northbound option would have certainly guaranteed the streets would be clear of traffic. However, the initial issue was: what goal are we trying to accomplish with the street pattern?
Clearing downtown streets of traffic quickly turns out to be a low priority. Downtown Tacoma already empties as fast as any city I have seen.
The benefit of the southbound direction became pretty clear when we looked at which direction would be more inviting to visitors and benefit downtown businesses.
In the end, not much is going to change. With angle parking on both sides of the road, I don’t think people are going to travel very fast down St. Helens.
Gotta say it, this is not a good thing for encouraging people to commute by bicycle…now we’ll be down to Broadway as the only gradually sloped way out of downtown to the north.
4 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Apr 10, 09:23 PM
St. Helens is functionally a one way street already, because of the nature of the traffic flow and the direction of the parking stalls. Some traffic does enter St. Helens from 9th but the bulk of it comes from the north rather than the south. I live on this particular block so I am pretty familiar with how the traffic works here. The problem is the Bostwick building, not so much the building but the intersection. It is confusing to many drivers not familiar with the area, which is quite a few because of the transients that frequent the area for theater or shopping. Making St. Helens strictly one way will require some very explicit signage in order to prevent wrong way traffic on St. Helens. I hate to say it but if St. Helens becomes one way I would expect the accident rate to go up and traffic flow to be slowed down on 9th because of the hesitation and confusion of the parties attempting to turn onto St. Helens from 9th.
5 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 10, 09:24 PM
Everyone has a view, some are very apposing. The traffic flow already shows the vote of the public. 75% of the people now using St. Helens go south. As the intersection does raise some safety questions, they have said the intention is to implement a light system that is specificly timed for each direction and also for peds. The street as it sits is confusing because most people THINK it is already a one way. It is currently NOT friendly for bikes, plus I would rather ride my bike on Broadway anyway. St. Helens is much steeper. I’m lazy though. Most of the concern against a No. bound direction was the safety issue of “Back in” angle parking. Also the loss of on street parking. There was a perception as well that you would be driving traffic OUT of downtown instead of INTO downtown as a business owner that is not a welcomed perception to add to the public, when it is hard enough to get shoppers to come downtown. The merchants and participants in the downtown core voted against a north bound direction. We are glad that our voices were heard. Thank you for inviting the public converstation.
6 | Posted by Penelope | Apr 11, 12:10 AM
Lots of short comments rolled together…
One-way directions will mean higher speeds as there will be less congestion. If you think people fly down this now, just wait. (Traffic calming devices are great but they are nothing compared to good old congestion.)
Getting to City Hall, and its abundance of short term parking will become more difficult with only around the block access from the nearest off-ramps and the main commercial district. This could increase surrounding congestion due to City Hall regulars.
Back-in angle parking is safer than “standard” angle parking. A recent study in Seattle showed a reduction in accident rates by about 1/3. This is because of the greater visibility people leaving the parking spaces have. It also guides the people leaving the cars to the curb by using the open car doors to block access to the drive lane.
Back in angle parking is faster to use because of the increased driver visibility. (When in reverse, the car is moving into a controlled space as oppossed to blindly navigating traffic.) Most objections to it are because many people find reverse unnatural in tight situations.
7 | Posted by DavidS | Apr 11, 08:34 AM
I’m interested in the numbers cited for the NB vs. SB usage. Erik says 80% is SB by his estimate, Penelope says 75%...are either of these numbers coming from a city traffic study? I’m not saying they’re wrong, I’m just curious…
Also, I’m sticking by my bike argument. Since I typically cut off up Sixth when I’m biking home, I’d rather have the one steep block from St. Helens to Fawcett rather than 2 steep blocks up from Broadway. Broadway is fine if I want to go through the Stadium District, but that is the “long way home” for me. And yes, I can just bike up 11th or 9th to Market, but that’s still adding another “steep” block… I’ll do whatever I need to, it’s not going to stop me from biking, but for others more reluctant to bike downtown it seems like losing one of the “less steep” routes is a big turn-off.
It’s probably too late (and I did share my comments via email with the city during earlier comment periods), but I’m still vastly in favor of keeping St. Helens two-way—I totally understand the arguments for SB in terms of volume and bringing people “into” downtown, but I believe there are compelling reasons to allow NB traffic as well.
8 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Apr 11, 09:18 AM
As a fellow bicyclist, I’m with Jamie — St. Helens is the best bike route through that part of town right now. (But don’t get me started on Tacoma’s lack of decent bike lanes/routes — it’s only OK right now because downtown is still sufficiently depressed to have pretty light car traffic.)
9 | Posted by michael g. | Apr 11, 10:38 AM
So, any word on a change to Broadway from one way to two way?
Also, does one way auto traffic preclude a north bound bike lane?
10 | Posted by Steven | Apr 11, 12:45 PM
Also, does one way auto traffic preclude a north bound bike lane?
Hmmmm….I suppose it wouldn’t necessarily preclude a northbound bike lane, but it would be sort of dangerous with people backing out of parking spaces. That danger exists somewhat already now, but at least people are watching for northbound traffic. Take away the northbound cars and they won’t even think to check…
12 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Apr 11, 01:37 PM
Okay, pardon the vision a bit here, but I wanted to share. Just a remember that through cvehicles going either direction can always go to the light at 9th and Market if St. Helens is too congested.
This portion of St. Helens is generating quite a bit of small scale commercial along its frontage. This commercial combined with the offices and residences is starting to produce some life on the street. I believe this life can be encouraged by prioritizing pedestrian access.
This summer I hope to see a fair amount of spill over from the farmers market into the St. Helens shops. Over time, I would love to see most of the parking disappear along this road and a more inviting non-vehicular environment developed. (Benches, landscape strips, bike racks, etc.)
Is this area ready for this yet? Nope. Our center is still too car dependent. Perhaps after a public garage in place of the parking lot on Market and another 1,000 residences. However, I would hate for everyone to become accustomed to this road as a through route as that would limit the creative options in another 10 years.
13 | Posted by DavidS | Apr 11, 05:11 PM
Thought I’d toss into the mix an article discussing the current urban planning trend towards turning one-way roads BACK to two-way roads. This is of course just a USA Today article, but there appears to be some evidence that one-way roads actually cause people to drive faster and just pass everything by…
David’s thought is intriguing, though…what if it were “no-way”? That could be sort of fun…
14 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Apr 12, 09:48 PM
Thought I’d toss into the mix an article discussing the current urban planning trend towards turning one-way roads BACK to two-way roads.
Yep. You are right. Most cities including Tacoma made the mistake of having too many one way roads with a fixation on “moving traffic” rather than economic revitalization.
It was not too long ago that 13th had three lanes down the hill one way creating a intercity freeway. Dangerous street to cross.
The downtown merchants split between two way and one way south for St. Helens. It could have stayed two way and I wouldn’t have minded.
However, it is a very narrow road and most of the current traffic travels southbound on it so it won’t be much of a change.
David’s thought is intriguing, though…what if it were “no-way”? That could be sort of fun…
Before my time in Tacoma. However, I heard they tried that on Broadway in front of the Tacoma Financial Center with disasterous results.
Yeah, I’m somewhat aware of the Broadway experiment. Probably would go just as badly on St. Helens…but we can dream.
Anyway, committee recommendations aside, it’s not too late to preserve St. Helens two-way traffic, so I’m going to keep harping on that issue, both for it’s traffic calming value and for the aforementioned benefit to bicyclists. But I’ve said it enough here, so time to start saying it to councilmembers, etc… (I encourage others to do the same!)
16 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Apr 12, 10:47 PM
The Broadway experiment did not have the street presence necessary to even consider success. St. Helens wouldn’t either at this point. (Density changes the discussion.)
Right now the city should be avoiding giving more priority to the cars. I think a one-way road would give that priority by making it a primary access not just into town but also to the 9th St. entrance of 705 – for a quick escape from downtown.
(13th St. had become an extended on ramp for 705 with all traffic heading one-way downhill to the entrance and the lights timed so you could go from Sprague to 705 without stopping.)
17 | Posted by DavidS | Apr 13, 07:27 AM
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