Design Review for Elks on 4/25 (18. April 2007, 12:03 by Derek Young) ~ Where To Next?

The agenda for the Landmark Preservation Commission’s meeting on 4/25 has an interesting little tidbit for you. Under Design Review : New Business we find:

565 Broadway (Elks Temple, Old City Hall Historic District):
Building stabilization and removal of additions

Movement! Things are changing!

Link to the Landmark Preservation Commission Agenda (pdf)

(Thank you, Erik)

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Building stabilization and removal of additions

Yes. Please. Stabilize the building before it falls down.

Great to see movement at the Elks Temple at an entrance to downtown and controller of the staircase.

1 | Posted by Erik | Apr 18, 12:39 PM

That is good news. What a great day it will be for Tacoma once that building is alive once again.

2 | Posted by KevinFreitas | Apr 18, 02:19 PM

I think this building could be a true Gem for the city and for tourists. I hope it happens and this good news moves forward!

3 | Posted by Andrew | Apr 18, 04:16 PM

Can I have the elk head?

4 | Posted by Hill Top Guy | Apr 18, 04:28 PM

I can almost taste my artfully prepared ale now…

5 | Posted by morgan | Apr 18, 05:19 PM

Yay! Those of us in the neighborhood can hardly wait … no more cars driving down that elegant stairway waiting to be restored to its former beauty.

6 | Posted by Laura H. | Apr 18, 09:46 PM

yeah, nothing like going down to the Elks and blowing a few bucks, hmmm exactly what kind of bar is it supposed to be?

7 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 19, 03:51 AM

I’ve been living with a dream of great expectations for this building. To wake up one morning and discover them a reality will be a miracle and a bright day for Tacoma and preservation.

8 | Posted by BrettS | Apr 19, 08:33 AM

Seriously how do i get my hands on the elk head.

9 | Posted by Hill Top Guy | Apr 19, 01:56 PM

Hill Top Guy, in the old days on Pacific you could get a lot of…oh never mind.

10 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 19, 02:39 PM

Crenshaw,
Is it your goal to be blackballed from our community with your negative tirades?
If everything out of your mouth is negative why do you want to be part of Exit 133?

11 | Posted by KaraE | Apr 19, 06:16 PM

Crenshaw cracks me up. He obviously wants good things for the people of Tacoma, he’s just got a healthy dose of irreverent skepticism.

12 | Posted by Erik S | Apr 19, 09:52 PM

er, excuse me, as my name does show, I AM very interested in what kind of bar will be in the Elk…nothing negative about an inquiry concerning a well-mixed cocktail….

13 | Posted by Violet Vodka | Apr 19, 11:08 PM

Having lived half my life, and all of my adult life in Tacoma I have to say that what I want from Tacoma is very simple. I want it to be diverse. I want it to be inclusive. I want it to be empowering. I want it to be creative and unique. I want to embrace the great things of its past and merge them with the hope that I’m sure we all have for the future. I’ve had the privilege of residing in several of America’s great cities and have found Tacoma to be unique amongst them. I will stand up for the underdog and I’ll try to be honest with the readers. I pull no punches, but Tacoma is worthy of someone who will fight for her. You are either with me or you are against me, wait, that has already been said…

14 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 19, 11:16 PM

Violet, you’ll get no grief from me for your love of a good cocktail. I consider myself more of a gin man, but I think that we can find a common cause in the rehabilitation of the Elks building.

15 | Posted by Erik S | Apr 20, 10:43 AM

I don’t like negativity just for the sake of negativity (been guilty of that myself enough times). But Crenshaw cracks me up too, and I think his opinions are a more than worthy addition to the mix. I hope 133 continues to be a discussion forum for all viewpoints and characters. I’d hate to see it become a one-dimensional cheerleading forum. And I like having people like Crenshaw and RR around to keep things a little off-kilter.

I’ve been out of the loop for a while – We’re still talking McMenamins, right? I ran into someone from Lake Oswego at Vin Grotto the other day. He described with great enthusiam all the McMenamin locations and how they are each tailored to the structure on which they are base. I can’t wait to see what’s in store for the Elks.

16 | Posted by Dave L. | Apr 20, 11:05 AM

Oh wait – I guess not. I’m up to speed now.

17 | Posted by Dave L. | Apr 20, 12:06 PM

I’ve had the pleasure of frequenting a number of the McMenamins facilities, some of them frequently. I must say they know what they are doing and they do it well. The most recent one is the old Spar in Olympia. The McMenimins took it over and rehabilitated a business that was probably headed into bankruptcy. The Spar was a venerable institution, to be sure, but you can’t just rest on your laurels. I believe that the McMenimins would have preferred a larger venue than the Spar and the Elks has the potential of being a show piece for them and for downtown Tacoma. If they do their normal brew pub, movie theater, cafe, pool hall thing I think it will be the hottest spot in downtown. Get this, at the Centralia operation, The Olympia Club, on Wednesday night you get a burger, a movie, and a beer for ten bucks. Now that is something downtown Tacoma needs. Good food, good beer, good times, and a place that is frequented by people from all walks of life. McMenimins may just bring out the best of Tacoma. You’ve got to love this northwest business. I thought that the old Mecca in downtown was going to be like a faux McMenimins, but from what I hear now it will become a sports bar and condos, no movie theater, maybe they know the McMenimins are on the way to doing something with the Elks.

18 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 20, 12:08 PM

I feel strongly that the new owners of the elks lodge should build a wall across the top of the spanish steps which would prevent confused drivers form being able to drive down the stairs and potentially crushing children to death. The proposed wall would also have the benefit of routing foot traffic through the new elks lodge gift shop.

Thanks.

19 | Posted by RR Anderson | Apr 20, 12:32 PM

Also I would like to formally accuse Crenshaw of being a clever pseudonym invented by an established exit133 commenter for the purposes of Ben Franklin-esque self-on-self arguments.

20 | Posted by RR Anderson | Apr 20, 12:37 PM

Last week I actually asked a friend of mine if he using the Crenshaw moniker as an online alter ego. For what it’s worth, he swears that it’s not him.

21 | Posted by Erik S | Apr 20, 01:13 PM

Perhaps the wall being contemplated at the Historical Society Museum could simply be transfered to the Spanish Steps, not sure how the Museum will make a buck off of this but perhaps it could lead to one of Tacoma’s tunnels and divert people to the museum., that or they could find them working in a Chinese sweat shop.

22 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 20, 01:33 PM

Re: Crenshaw, I couldn’t figure out how to draw a line connecting Olympia, Torrance, CA, and Tacoma, and I wasn’t able to bait him/her with an email. I hope he/she keeps posting, but remains as anonymous as RR seemed to be for a while. Just seems more fun that way.

23 | Posted by Dave L. | Apr 20, 03:00 PM

Glad to see they are doing something with this. Back in the good old days I used to sit in my apartment up the hill and watch the junkies climb in and out the windows up top. Was always curious how they got up there? I’m excited to see this place cleaned up!

24 | Posted by Rebecca | Apr 20, 06:35 PM

well my fondest wish for the Elk is low-income-only live-in artist lofts …even tho, too often, low-income = artist, and is therefore, redundant. (some of us are not trustfundians)...well, my fondest wish for anywhere in Tacoma proper is TRUE low-income-only Artist Lofts…I’d fist-fight the flippers for that…..

25 | Posted by Violet Vodka | Apr 20, 10:53 PM

Low income artist live-in lofts will never happen in downtown. Maybe 10 or 15 years ago the Elks could have become such a project. But not to worry, artists are after all creative. What needs to be done is to explore new neighborhoods in Tacoma to see which of those would have the potential of becoming a “starving artists district”. I know this is becoming more difficult as time goes by and the purchase and rental prices continue to go up. One thing about artists, they have always been forced out of the districts they create. It is also true that artists will find a way. Poor artists unite, you will determine which neighborhood in Tacoma will become gentrified in the future.

26 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 21, 09:37 AM

I, and Mr. Vodka work out of our home…it is crowded!!! I am a proponent of true low-income housing..and TTown was faboo in that respect…it just really upsets me that we create the lifestyle that gets commodified…and then Richard Florida comes to town and claims to love the artists….mmmmmm….....

27 | Posted by Violet Vodka | Apr 21, 07:37 PM

Strangely enough, I’ve just become involved in a project that might very well result in low-income artist lofts in the downtown area. It will not be the Elks building, but it has the potential to be very cool and pretty much what an impoverished artist would want. I will not go into the details, but as things solidify and commitments are made I’ll let more of the details out of the bag. Sometimes you think things are impossible and you just have to look a bit more closely and talk with the right people.

28 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 22, 12:18 AM

I wish McMenamins cared as much about the quality of the beer as the architecture. Tacoma could use a really high quality micro-brew. What we have now are OK but nothing that knocks my socks off. (hey, with my screen name, are you surprised I am a beer snob?)

Regarding live-work artist lofts, suggest everyone read the Seattle Weekly’s article about the brewery lofts and how that hasn’t turned out the way the artists had hoped. Unless you own the space or have an extremely long lease I would recommend very highly that that trade of low rent for sweat and real equity invested in making the space easily rented for a much higher rate be regarded with more than a little caution.

Been hearing that the most likely neighborhood for real artists lofts will be in Nalley Valley. Anyone locating there better not count on doing much retail out of their studio – there is a reason why Art on Center is changing to Art off Center….

29 | Posted by beerBoy | Apr 22, 12:00 PM

My artist loft is my new garage. Heck in our new home Ms. Darcy even gets a her own painting studio!

Maybe someday we’ll sell enough art to purchase real pseudonyms.

30 | Posted by RR Anderson | Apr 22, 10:10 PM

Seriously, if it weren’t for the OlyClub down here in Centralia, I’d probably quit my job and go someplace else that actually has a decent brewpub (like Tacoma).

31 | Posted by drizell | Apr 22, 10:30 PM

The Olympic Club in Centralia is real treasure. Indeed, downtown Centralia has many charms and great potential. People wonder about artist lofts in Tacoma and I’d suggest that Centralia would be a great place for an artist to work. Modest rents, interesting spaces and a fairly active arts community down in Lewis County. Tacoma is a great town in its own right, but it really is headed in a direction that will make it difficult for the low income people in the arts to really make a go of it. Centralia and Chehalis may prove to be the promised land. Centralia is great, half way between Portland and Seattle an artist can take advantage of a number of markets. Looking to buy a house for less then 100k, Centralia is the place. Just needs a few more interesting people and a bit more diversity.

32 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Apr 22, 11:49 PM

Centralia is home to Dick’s Brewing. Their Bottleworks IPA is fantastic. Haven’t been to the deli but it’s on my list of things to do.

33 | Posted by beerBoy | Apr 23, 06:20 AM

Continuing the digression re artists’ lofts: I think it would be great if the folks at Artspace Projects, Inc. came in and set anchor somewhere. There’s a real community in their TK Lofts on the edge of Pioneer Square. Everytime I visit there I wish there was something similar in Tacoma. Cren, I wish you success on whatever it is you’re working on.

34 | Posted by (Shh...I'm at work.) | Apr 23, 09:51 AM

I heard on a KIRO talk radio show this weekend that McMenimins wants to open a brewpub in Saint Edward State Park along Lake Washington. I’ve never been to this park but I guess it’s somewhere in Kirkland.

http://www.710kiro.com/showdj.asp?djid=31743

35 | Posted by ca | Apr 23, 11:59 AM

St. Edwards is on the NE corner of the Lake. (North of Juanita and south of Bothell). Bastyr College is located right next to the park.. so you could go to McMennamins and then over to the college for some naturopathy and massage.

36 | Posted by Matt | Apr 23, 03:22 PM

well, if real real artists live-in studios ever show up ….means-tested…and not the phony yuppie vanity projects….I’ll paint the toenails of the developer…that’s all they get from me…The Heavenly Artist Patron Saint will make sure that developer will not have to go to H-E-double hockey sticks… with the rest of the capitalists!

37 | Posted by Violet Vodka | Apr 24, 06:44 PM

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