Many of us have been waiting to see changes at Old City Hall… and many of you have emailed me in the last day about it. So it appears that a little something seems to be happening. The developers will be going before city council on August 28th to ask for the multi family tax exemption (pdf). But, more interestingly, there seems to be some work going on in the space. A demo permit sits in the Commerce street window of the building authorizing work on the third floor. So, ever so slowly, things do seem to be moving… somewhere. We’ll see.
Previously on Exit133
Thank you, Erik
Update
Now in The News Tribune with details. No condos. All offices.
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Old City Hall is perhaps the most photographed building in Tacoma.
Hopefully, the issues with the tenants can be worked out soon and the work can start. The building has been nearly empty for a year and a half.
It would be a pinnacle moment if and when the clock starts again.
Took a couple sunny Saturday shots of it myself just the other day. Beautiful place.
I don’t believe, however, the clock will run again if the word I heard from the developer while in there on photo safari is right. Pitty…
2 | Posted by KevinFreitas | Aug 14, 02:28 PM
Also, the hold-out tennants are on the Pacific Ave. side at ground level, are they not? I suppose one way to urge them out is to start work elsewhere in the building and make working there noisy and dusty.
3 | Posted by KevinFreitas | Aug 14, 02:29 PM
Kevin,
I believe thier lease give the right to “quite enjoyment” of the property. They can’t start work till everybody is out.
Steven
4 | Posted by Steven | Aug 14, 02:33 PM
Y’know what we need? Michael J. Fox, a mad scientist, a time machine and good electrical storm to get that clock up and running again!
The interesting thing is that in the Back to the Future movie, there was a group raising money to Save the Clocktower
Maybe that’s what we need to start here once the renovation works gets underway.
RE: Preserving the Old City Hall clock and bell.
I read recently that London England is cleaning the clockface of Big Ben. Big Ben refers to the bell that many people of the world are familiar with whether directly or by some kind of recording.
The Old City Hall clock and bell should also be preserved. They are a distinctive attribute of Tacoma. Like Big Ben, they serve as both a visual and audible reference marker.
I think it’s important to keep in mind that every true point of reference is always just one generation away from revision or destruction.
8 | Posted by Mofo from the Hood | Aug 15, 09:39 AM
Old City Hall is going Class A office:
From old to new to old at Old City Hall
Historic Old City Hall in Tacoma will get a new life, finally. But not as the 48 luxury condominiums that were to be priced as high as $1.5 million, as announced two years ago.
No view decks, garden commons, residents’ theater, vaults with wine cellars or penthouse suites up to 2,200 square feet. No lobby concierge to handle residents’ personal arrangements.
No, the 1893 Italian Renaissance building’s new life will look a lot like its old one – office space – only upgraded from hodge-podge to historic Class A. – Dan Voelpel
I am thinking we might hear the same thing about the Wintrhop, No huge changes but just managed better.
Interesting. Just as the Seattle’s Smith Tower cleared one more important hurdle towards condoversion. I still don’t have high expectations for the Winthrop either, though I hope I’m proven wrong.
10 | Posted by Dave L. | Aug 16, 05:08 PM
Hmmm…
At least the building could be used for something instead of sitting almost vacant. I was always curious about who the “nationally famous” mystery tenant that apparently had reserved one of the clock tower suites was. There’s nothing else like Old City Hall in Tacoma. The mystery person probably got fed up with Tacoma and headed 35 miles north. Who could blame them?
No, the 1893 Italian Renaissance building’s new life will look a lot like its old one – office space – only upgraded from hodge-podge to historic Class A. – Dan Voelpel
Fine by me. Then they didn’t need to remove the tenants. Perhaps that is what drove the decision. Here’s the market changing before our eyes.
I believe the famous tenant who was supposed to live there was Chihuly, and I also gotta agree that Prium is gonna drop the ball on the Winthrop. Prium is already downscaling plans for the mixed use building on the Foss waterway and they’ve dropped Jay Heights, along with projects in Spokane.
13 | Posted by CA | Aug 16, 08:51 PM
Yeah, it looks like they have the rough-in framing done, but that’s about it. I haven’t seen any activity there for months. The project got underway about 18 months ago. However, despite Prium’s inability to pay its subcontractors, they at least have the money to hire a security guard for Chelsea Heights.
How did Old City Hall think it was going to sell high end condos without any on-site parking? Offices seem to make more sense for the building.
16 | Posted by rp | Aug 17, 07:47 AM
Good article in the TNT today on the Old City Hall Building being renovated into an office building.
The market, commercial real estate brokers will tell you, has soared for what office users term Class A, the most premium space. Tacoma doesn’t have much left. So scarce has it become, for example, that Russell Investment Group leased two floors earlier this year in the Wells Fargo Building more than a year before their growth projections showed they would need it.
Well, here is 55,505 of new class A office space downtown. I hope they place a restaurant or other retail on the first floor though to liven things up in the area.
Good development to ever be able to get the Spanish Staircase functional again and add some needed life in the area, at least during working hours.
How did Old City Hall think it was going to sell high end condos without any on-site parking?
Condos are sold in Tacoma w/o parking such as many of the condo conversions. However, for the top end, I think it does make it more of a challenge.
The Tacoma trinity challenge : Winthop Hotel, Elks Temple and Old City Hall. Looks like Old City Hall is going to be the first to be restored.
Y’know what we need? Michael J. Fox, a mad scientist, a time machine and good electrical storm to get that clock up and running again!
Seriously, we do need the clock restored and working. This is the closest thing Tacoma has to Big Ben.
This would be a great philanthropic project for a group of people to take on. Perhaps a fundraiser, get a hold of someone who could work on clocks like this to figure out what would need to be done. Who knows, perhaps even a web site. www.savetacomaclocktower.com
Any takers? Does anyone know about clocks? (There’s the one in Proctor)
Regarding chelsea heights (Jake & Drizrell), I had an opportunity a week or so ago to walk the interior. All of the work is going on inside the courtyard and in the units (plumbing, electrical and HVAC rough in). Pretty cool deck at each floor in the courtyard and open area above with skylights. Not much activity on the outside until recently with windows but a lot of activity at the interior. Word inside was completion in 3-4 months.
19 | Posted by fuzzybear | Aug 17, 01:13 PM
@17:
The Tacoma trinity challenge: Winthrop Hotel, Elks Temple and Old City Hall.
No doubt.
It’s an ages old story of generation, degeneration and regeneration.
20 | Posted by Mofo from the Hood | Aug 17, 01:14 PM
Yeah I drove by Chelsea Heights yesterday and heard work going on. Anyone know how many sold units they have in Hanna Heights?
21 | Posted by CA | Aug 17, 01:41 PM
I also have to add that I love the change to offices for the old city hall over condos but darn it… we still need to address parking regardless, if it is either condos or offices. That is a lot of added bodies to that part of town with no parking relief.
22 | Posted by fuzzybear | Aug 17, 01:42 PM
Jake, I no nothing about the remaining windows on the outside. The are also a bunch on the inside walls facing the courtyard that were being installed though.
24 | Posted by fuzzybear | Aug 17, 02:54 PM
fuzzybear @ 22:
“That is alot of added bodies to that part of town with no parking relief.”
Parking in that area of downtown is typically not a problem when I’ve been there. There is a large parking lot across Commerce and the link line is one block away. Parking across the street is typically less of a concern for office (not retail) than residential. This could be part of the reason for the switch.
25 | Posted by DavidS | Aug 17, 03:19 PM
It’s an ages old story of generation, degeneration and regeneration.
Hopefully, more of the latter please.
Yeah I drove by Chelsea Heights yesterday and heard work going on
Chelsea Heights is going ahead. Plus, they can’t stop now, its almost done. Maybe they will turn into office space as well.
Parking in that area of downtown is typically not a problem when I’ve been there.
With 70 percent of the spaces empty on the end of Broadway, you can say that again. That means even through parking is free we still can’t give it away. The area needs more humans.
I think this new development w/ Old City Hall is great news. In order for Tacoma to continue to revitalize, there needs to be a balance of residential, retail, and office space. If more people end up working downtown, it’s only going to help the residential market.
28 | Posted by Gorman | Aug 17, 04:50 PM
I am excited for this. Many people, including Voelpel, argue that Tacoma is lacking in Class A commercial space. If this project is indeed Class A and fills up instantly, as there may be a market for Class A, perhaps we will see that Haub building or increased commercial development in the CBD.
29 | Posted by snoopy | Aug 17, 07:35 PM
Checked out Hannah Heights, and at the time there was only one spoken for, and it was the the developers, Mr. Um. Very nice top floor, nicest views of bay and city.
30 | Posted by tct2326 | Aug 17, 11:19 PM
I’d love to have one of the Hanna Heights units, but I’m about 9-12 months away from having enough set aside to do it. I wonder if that’s a common scenario for many young working professionals.
31 | Posted by Michael Bottorff | Aug 20, 12:12 AM
I suspect that your situation is fairly common among the others of your cohort, Michael. Among other things, the gradual tightening of lending standards is making it harder for prospective first-time RE buyers. Probably somebody somewhere is still offering zero-down loans with closing costs rolled in, but most lenders aren’t. Putting down even 5% and closing costs requires a fair bit of change when you’re not selling another property.
To be fair, it is probably a good thing that we are seeing a return to down payments. It makes borrowers less likely to default and can help keep them from being upside-down on their mortgages now that properties aren’t appreciating 15%+ each year. I just don’t think that the added difficulty that new buyers are facing has worked its way through the market yet.
32 | Posted by Erik S | Aug 20, 09:32 AM
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