With all this tour of urban living / condo talk in town, we also receive emails from folks saying they want a garden, a garage… an actual house. Tacoma still has houses, right? And, while still impressive and interesting, we’re not talking about $2 million estates on 4 acres. So, here are a couple of less expensive homes that have appeared on the market recently.

We talked about this house in early 2006 when we first walked through it. It’s still cute. It’s still very funky. It’s located at 1523 South Cushman. The sloping ceilings and little rooms make it unlike any other house we’ve ever seen. The realtor describes it as “a very artistic home.” When we walked through it, we said, that it was “a bit surreal in a sorta Alice In Wonderland way.” So if you were thinking about a little condo, maybe this would be more like it. There’s a garden and a basement. The kitchen is a bit… retro. We like it.
Listed with Prestige Properties NW for $185k

On the other hand, maybe you want something a little larger. Do you like brick? We saw this in our inbox recently… it’s a 2200 square foot 2 bedroom brick home (with a brick garage) in the North Slope neighborhood for only $235k. Yeah, it needs some work, but it’s a nice looking little home in a great neighborhood. The backyard has soo much potential.
Listed with Rainier Real Estate at $235k
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really? I mean, they might be cheap, but both of those homes are weak sauce compared to my (shameless self-promotion™) Tacoma Home for Sale.
1 | Posted by sparkrobot | Oct 24, 01:08 PM
We just don’t want you to move away, spark…though given the sparse furnishings, it looks like you may have already vacated.
2 | Posted by jamie from thriceallamerican | Oct 24, 01:34 PM
we still live in the house, we just wear radioactive suits and shave the dogs.
3 | Posted by sparkrobot | Oct 24, 01:53 PM
Does Tacoma still have houses? The single-family homeowners may view the new apartment buildings with suspicion, but the fact is, 90% of the residential land in the city of Tacoma is currently occupied by single-family homes and is zoned for such low intensity uses. Such large tracts of single-family homes are the result of antiquated zoning regulations from the past several decades. Unfortunately, the scourge of single-family neighborhoods still prevent many places from becoming great cities. They necessitate ownership of cars to get places, their construction wastes resources, causes increased groundwater and air pollution, and makes our city’s denizens overweight. Owning a single-family home is sort of like owning a Hummer.
Fortunately, I believe, the single family house trend will go out of style someday. That is, unless Carolyn Swope and her cronies have a say in it.
Come on… These houses were all built a long time ago. They’re not giant, new construction McMansions with three car garages, and they’re most certainly are not to blame for Hummers, or even fat America for that matter. And really wouldn’t destroying existing homes to make room for new, trendy McLofts be just as wasteful? I concede to some of your argument here, and I’ve read Kunstler too, but dude, ease up.
the scourge of single-family neighborhoods still prevent many places from becoming great cities
That and being drop dead boring.
5 | Posted by sparkrobot | Oct 24, 05:43 PM
Drizell.
up-zoning a neighborhood for the sake of density doesn’t always result in a desired outcome.
It is my opinion that portions of the North Slope Historic District that were originally zoned R-4 and R-4L back in 1953 resulted in the destruction of many grand historic houses that were replaced with aesthetically insulting bland apartments that only detract from the districts beauty. If the entire district maintained an R-2 zoning and allowed all uses prior to 1953 to remain legal nonconforming, many great structures would still be standing.
A recent example is the upzone from the R-2/R-3 mixture to the west of Tacoma Mall (43-48th, Lawrence, Warner, Junett, Pine) to RCX Residential Commercial Mixed Use in the late 1990’s. The area was originally a fairly bland single-family neighborhood. While it seemed in decline and lacked the character that many northend neighborhoods possess, the new development is far denser, but lacks quality design, amenities, and is just as auto oriented. While the zoning is mixed-use, the area is almost entirely comprised of multifamily units and townhomes. The only amenity available is the enormous mall to the east of the neighborhood. Obviously, the mall and businesses surrounding it are auto-oriented and pedestrian unfriendly.
The density argument can be a good one. However, the facts are Americans prefer single-family dwellings, many of Tacoma’s single-family dwellings were built during a period when one could consider Tacoma as being a “great city”(1890-1940), and if you are going to argue density, you should focus on delivering density with livability. As I recall, many urban projects created during the urban renewal era in the US were extremely dense. I doubt many would argue however that these dense housing units contributed to a cities greatness.
6 | Posted by snoopy | Oct 24, 08:45 PM
Snoppy,
Actually I think the area behind the mall was zoned R-4L prior the to UCX rezone. Atleast a few properties I sold in the neighborhood were rezoned to R-4L from R-3 in 1972. I would say what is being built now is about what you would get with R-4L zoning minus the setbacks (R-4L brought us all of the 1970’s-1980’s 4 plexes)
I think Tacoma should focus adding density on some of the arterial streets. South 19th Street is a good example of a street(from MLK to Proctor) that would look better without single family homes all along it. A few other roads that could use some density: Sprague Ave, Pacific Ave, 38th Street, 56th Street. Adding density would 1) Make the streets more inviting 2) Increase values along the streets which will increase neighborhood values 3) Building higer density, closer to the front property line could slow traffic down on arterials
curses you are right. the RCX next to the Tmall was mostly comprised of R-3/R-4L prior to the RCX. I still feel the lack of design controls in the RCX zoning is creating poor quality development in that area of town. While that area was zoned for higher intensity uses, much of it contained single-family dwellings.
8 | Posted by snoopy | Oct 25, 08:03 AM
Drizell, I hear what you’re going for and am sympathetic towards your desire for higher density, but the scourge of $300K for an uninteresting 1BR condo (or even $150K for a rundown 500sf apartment conversion) is a much greater threat to Tacoma’s greatness today than the stock of 50+ year old houses.
Ah, well. At least I know that if I can save up $400,000 or maybe $500,000 I can get a deck big enough to turn around on without hitting my elbows. As long as I continue to live alone things will be dandy.
Back on topic a bit, I always had a bit of a soft spot for that wacky yellow place on Cushman. I remember it being on sale a year or two back and, to their credit, they don’t seem to have raised the price appreciably.
9 | Posted by Erik S | Oct 25, 08:42 AM
Drizell, while I’m sympathetic to exaggeration as a means to make a point, your argument doesn’t pass the “laugh test”. Suburbs and McMansions = bad. No one would argue against that here. But your claim that single family homes in cities are just as bad ignores a great swath of evidence to the contrary. Look at Southeast Portland, for example. Or North Seattle, to a large extent. Very walkable neighborhoods, filled almost exclusively with single family houses. Or look closer to home: I live just off 6th and Union (in a single family house) and can walk to three coffee shops, a drug store, a grocery, a couple bars, and more restaurants than I can count.
I’m not saying that there aren’t examples in your favor, I’m just saying that you’re throwing around insulting rhetoric that clearly isn’t supported very well.
I have to agree with Elliot. No one can argue against well-planned neighborhoods with amenities and bus routes within walking distance, but the reality is that not everyone wants a condo. We need to offer condos, but also environmentally friendly single-family homes, and everything in between. What we need is more home choices, not less.
11 | Posted by Kate | Oct 25, 06:57 PM
I see Tacoma becoming a great city on the basis of great neighborhoods. Density may be a requirement for great cities of the past, but I think Tacoma can make a go of it with a good number of great neighborhoods surrounding interesting commercial areas of mixed use properties.
What I find amazing of Tacoma is that within a less than 5 minute drive one can find a number of neighborhoods that can be great neighborhoods, some already in the process. Has anyone noticed that in Tacoma’s heyday it had the Commerce/Pacific downtown, then it had the Tacoma Avenue commercial area and just up the hill a bit was the historic K Street commercial area. How amazing is that for a city. I can walk from 11th and MLK to my place on St. Helens in just a few minutes and yet pass through 3 commercial districts. The revitalization of Tacoma Avenue and MLK will be a great asset to the greatness of Tacoma.
Tacoma may not be Seattle, New York, San Francisco, or Boston, but she has her own charms and some very unique qualities. I think it is a big mistake to make Tacoma like any place else. Seattle has little to teach us, Portland has little to teach us. We can learn much from Tacoma’s own history and we can profit by correcting the mistakes that have taken us from what worked for Tacoma in the past.
Downtown’s biggest mistake was to think it could compete with the Mall by trying to emulate the mall. This bore the seeds of downtown’s distruction. Look at the busy part of 6th Avenue. No parking and yet they do a great business by being something other than the mall or shopping center. Sure the McDonalds and Starbucks will always do a good business but there ain’t nothing wrong with the Shakabrah, Primo Grill, or the Crown Bar. It was not that long ago that the only real action on 6th Ave. was the Engine House. Parking was non-existent then and it hasen’t gotten better, only the business and traffic has gotten better.
Please, no more Seattle consultants, no more trying to lure national chains. Tacoma deserves a better fate and can have that better fate.
12 | Posted by Crenshaw Sepulveda | Oct 26, 12:24 AM
Naturally, all of the above comments are right on the mark. There is much more to city building that just adding density. I believe that Americans have adopted single-family homes because that is what the media and the government have said is desirable. Before 1950, most Americans lived in dense cities. Government subsidies are largely responsible for creating the phenomenon we now know as sprawl. Obviously, it will take a huge cultural shift (and government intervention) to get Americans away from the single family home ideal. I believe it is already starting: interest is very high in walkable living arrangements and you’re starting to see celebrities and people regular folks look up buying lofts in Tribeca instead of mansions in Connecticut. There’s still the myth that you can’t raise children with out a huge backyard (nothing could be further from the truth!!!) and the issues with schools that prevent many people from choosing to relocate to more walkable neighborhoods. Change is coming, though. Eventually people will no longer be able to take a short “five-minute drive;” they’ll have to take public transportation (like 80 percent of New Yorkers already do) and learn to live in a higher-density environment.
Drizell,
I agree with a lot of your thoughts, and I’m a big advocate of density. I guess my issue is that I think density can be properly served by walkable single family home neighborhoods. Note that an important part of that is that they are walkable: this usually has more to do with business density and street layout than house layout. Endless subdivisions are bad because of this: there’s nothing but houses for miles. We need to make sure zoning laws of the future are set up to prevent malls from being built 5 miles out of town, and instead put business cores amongst residential centers.
Also, as you alluded to, a lot of these issues will start to solve themselves (be it too late at much higher than needed costs) as oil prices continue to rise and that “5 minute drive” starts to cost enough to make you think twice.
Has anyone checked out Village at the Pointe? Two blocks east off of 33rd and Pearl St. I really think no one in Tacoma knows we live here. We have the best of both worlds here (condos) houses with yard space to grow your own garden, barbeque on my own private patio. I can go out and run my private neighborhood at midnight because we are fenced and gated. We have one car garages with an additional parking space right near the front door. Two real bedrooms and one and three quarter baths. My shower is large enough for two with two small benches. I could not believe what I got here in value on the north end of Tacoma compared to what was available down town. Best of all I can walk to Safeway or Albertsons without witnessing things I really do not wish to visually share. One of the main reasons I chose this neighborhood is because of the privacy and the space, minutes from work, Pointe Defiance, HWY16, 30th Street and the waterfront. My neighborhood even has a heated community pool outdoors so I do not need to drive somewhere else to enjoy a hot summer afternoon by the water. This neighborhood just started selling homes last Spring/Summer and I really like what it is evolving into. I needed jumper cables one morning and did not hesitate to knock on my neighbors doors to ask. No stairs, no elevators, just a lot of outside space, blue sky and quiet. So tell all those wieners who complain about price vs. size or old vs. new to check it out. They will still find something wrong with it but they will have to agree it is a one of a kind neighborhood
15 | Posted by CJ | Oct 27, 12:50 PM
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