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A Chick-Fil-A For Tacoma?

​It appears that Tacoma may be getting a new dining establishment. We see permit applications for a Chick-Fil-A drive-thru. This appears to mark the re-entry of Chik-Fil-A into Washington State. 

The application lists 3902 South Steele as the location for the new drive-thru restaurant; that’s the parking lot next to Ashley Furniture (formerly Borders Books), up against the retaining wall.

The permit requests variances to allow a drive-thru to be located between the building and Steele Street, a primary pedestrian street, on a site zoned “CCX.” Chick-Fil-A’s proposal would direct drive-thru customers around the back side of the building counterclockwise, with the service window on the east side of the building, between the building and Steel Street. This layout does not literally comply with the Development standards, which require that the drive-thru stacking lane be restricted to the rear of the building. Comments will be accepted through August 1. We don’t see a timeline for construction yet.

Also of possible interest, is the two page Chick-Fil-A answer to the prompt “Please explain how the project would be beneficial to the general public.”

Chick-fil-A is a family-owned and family-led company dedicated to serving the communities in which we operate. From the day Truett Cathy started the company, he began applying biblically-based principles to managing his business. For example, we believe that we are stronger because of such principles as closing on Sundays, going the extra mile in service, treating others as we want to be treated, and devoting a percentage of profits back to our communities. Those same principles have been applied throughout the history of Chick-fil-A and still apply today…

We seem to remember hearing about Chick-Fil-A in the news recently ...

So are you excited to have a local place to get your Chik-Fil-A Deluxe Chicken Sandwich? 

For more, read the full permit application (pdf).

Update: The TNT has a few more details on Chick-Fil-A’s plans, and the drive-thru permit issue. Read more here.

Update (1-17-2014): as of January 16 Chick-Fil-A's requested variances were approved (pdf).


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Comments

Stephanie

We can’t get an In-and-Out Burger, but we get a Chick-Fil-A?  Really….

July 17, 2013 at 6:56 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Jeff

Chick-Fil-A’s a bigger franchise.

January 1, 2014 at 12:46 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Rhonda

What about a Whole Foods? 

July 17, 2013 at 7:01 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Chris

A violation of the design standards is just that. We are never going to get further in making Tacoma a more walkable and urban place without holding to walkable standards.

July 17, 2013 at 7:42 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Xeno

It looks like it is being built to the same standard as the Wendy’s just south of it, although I forget if the drivethrough window faces Steele Street.  Seems like a minor variance since there will be no drive through lane spilling into Steele.  Sort of a nightmare of an intersection though.

July 17, 2013 at 7:55 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Sid

Chick-Fil-A is not a dining establishments.

July 17, 2013 at 8:04 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Tacomamama

Never eaten at one, never will.

July 17, 2013 at 8:13 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Robin Echtle

“treating others as they want to be treated”???  They are bigots.  They don’t want anyone treating them fairly.  Won’t go. Hope that they don’t come.  As others have stated, there are other businesses we need more than this one.  ugh.

July 17, 2013 at 8:45 am / Reply / Quote and reply


fred davie

What, a corporation might put a drive through window where it could be seen by pedestrians?

Oh the humanity! I guess those liberals who foretold the decline of our civilization under the jackboot of corporate greed were correct after all.  Don’t know if our city council will be able to find the time to address this afront to decent society while they are so busy advocating for gays, illegal immigrants, at hope youth, etc. But certainly this issue should be moved to the top of their agenda.

July 17, 2013 at 8:49 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Mill Run

bigots and gristle sandwiches.  how special.  to be fair, fries are good though.

July 17, 2013 at 9:10 am / Reply / Quote and reply


AP

Much like In-n-Out, I expect the food to be all hype. I will try it to find out.

July 17, 2013 at 9:41 am / Reply / Quote and reply


fred davie

the development dilemma:

does the city allow a variance which would allow a drive through window…. or would the city prefer to have an undeveloped parcel which is just a bunch of broken concrete, scotch broom and malt liquor bottles for another 20 years? liberals and transit oriented development types: it’s time for you to make your opinions known!

July 17, 2013 at 10:07 am / Reply / Quote and reply


J.

SO EXCITED!!

July 17, 2013 at 10:21 am / Reply / Quote and reply


JesseRegistered

If only there could be this kind of excitement about locally owned businesses…  Have you tried the crab bisque at Over the Moon Cafe?  How about a Mike’s Deluxe at MSM?  The Happy Hour menu is amazing at Pacific Grill and Stanley’s.  A hot dog at Red Hot?  Perhaps a Lucky Seven sandwich at Hal of a Sub?  Sushi Revolution is good… and cheap. 

Spend your food dollars wisely.  I personally like the places run by my friends and neighbors because I’m not interested in living in “Anytown USA”.

Did you also know that $73 out of every $100 that you spend at a locally owned business stays in the local economy versus $43 for a national business?  Local businesses generate four times the economic impact on an area that a national chain and grow the tax base to fund police, fire, street maintenance, and schools.

July 17, 2013 at 11:27 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Penelope

If only there could be this kind of excitement about locally owned businesses…  Have you tried the crab bisque at Over the Moon Cafe?  How about a Mike’s Deluxe at MSM?  The Happy Hour menu is amazing at Pacific Grill and Stanley’s.  A hot dog at Red Hot?  Perhaps a Lucky Seven sandwich at Hal of a Sub?  Sushi Revolution is good… and cheap. 

Spend your food dollars wisely.  I personally like the places run by my friends and neighbors because I’m not interested in living in “Anytown USA”.

Did you also know that $73 out of every $100 that you spend at a locally owned business stays in the local economy versus $43 for a national business?   Local businesses generate four times the economic impact on an area that a national chain and grow the tax base to fund police, fire, street maintenance, and schools.

July 21, 2013 at 7:42 am / Reply / Quote and reply


scarlover

hot damn!  chick-fil-a here i come!  i’ll be in line monday-saturday—especially if they’re making biscuits!  some of you sound like a bunch of small-minded south georgia bigots.  i’m from georgia and down there you run into folks who make up their minds in advance—regardless that they know nothing about the person, place, thing (or environmental phenomenon) in question.  i used to expect more of folks from the west coast—but i’ve learned that y’all aren’t as open-minded as you like to think.  chick-fil-a takes care of it’s employees—they have a scholarship program for the folks who work in their stores and have a lot of long-term corporate employees—plus they give their employees sunday off, whether they choose to attend church or not!  you might want to talk to the people who you think are being so mistreated before you take up their cause.  on second thought, nevermind—if you stay home, that’ll leave more biscuits, sandwiches, waffle-fries and fresh lemonade for the rest of us!

July 17, 2013 at 2:56 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Tacomamama

The issue isn’t their treatment of their employees, it’s their opposition to marriage equality.

July 17, 2013 at 8:54 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Jeff

Restaurants, like any other organizations, are allowed to have any viewpoint they want. The character fault, wouldn’t be that its different from other groups, but if they decided to treat others, including employees and customers, differently because of it‒which they don’t. Employees and customers alike have never been turned away because of sexual orientation or marriage equality viewpoints and never will there, because Chick-Fil-A’s goal is to love people, which is more important than any viewpoint, anyway.

January 1, 2014 at 1:03 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


NameDane

Go back to Georgia then.

July 21, 2013 at 8:33 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Dreams Come True

All you whiners can go back to your little holes you came out of.  More of that chicken goodness for the rest of us!  Make Tacoma “walkable”?  How about making sure you can go through the entire city and feel safe first, and then worry about it being “walkable”.

July 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Dreams Come True

@Jesse

Fine, don’t spend your money there.  More Chick-fil-A for those of us who make it a first stop on any city we go to that has it.  And does that mean if I go to a Chick-fil-A that I can’t go to a local place?  From what you say, its one or the other…..very narrow minded.

July 17, 2013 at 5:02 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Matthias

@dreamscometrue I don’t think that’s narrow minded, I think that’s called a preference and that preference is supporting the community and its businesses.

What areas of Tacoma do you not find walkable?

July 17, 2013 at 6:51 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


JesseRegistered

I am merely pointing out that food dollars are the easiest way for a person to spend their money locally.  I’m sorry you didn’t redneckognize my point.

July 18, 2013 at 8:38 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Dane

@Dreamscometrue, if you want to point out narrowmindedness, look at the owners of Chik-Fil-A,I don’t want bigots who fund hate groups setting up a business in my town, or state for that matter, if you cant live without them then move to Georgia, or where all the other bigots live so you can patronize them.

July 21, 2013 at 8:39 am / Reply / Quote and reply


James

I’m blown away that this post has gotten so many comments! To summarize: A- Chick-fil-A’s leadership never should have taken such a reprehensible position on marriage. B- Fast food is unhealthy, but Chick-fil-A has an apparent following in the NW (Military folks not from around here I assume). C- National chains are bad for the local economy. 4- Drive-thru windows are bad for creating walk-able cities. 

All that said, I could care less. A- I won’t eat at Chick-fil-A anyways. B- I won’t eat at Chick-fil-A anyways. C- I won’t eat at Chick-fil-A anyways. D- I won’t eat at Chick-fil-A anyways. And a final thought: I hate the mall, and it’s surrounding wasteland of American suburbanism, culture and commerce. Chick-fil-A will fit right in. Sad that REI became a member of that community as well.

July 18, 2013 at 9:38 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Squid

Chik-fil-A, meh.  When it comes to southern chicken joints, give me a bucket of Guthries any day.

July 18, 2013 at 1:10 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


amanda westbrooke

I sent an email to Shirley Schultz of the City of Tacoma asking her where we would post our comments about this. Below is her timely and very thorough reply…Thank You Shirley!

Hi, Amanda –

Comments related to the requested variances can be sent directly to me.

They’ll be forwarded to the applicant for a response, and substantive comments will be addressed in the variance decision.


Shirley Schultz
City of Tacoma | Development Services
253-591-5121
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
http://www.tacomapermits.org

Exit133 - A Chick-Fil

July 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Christine

The city is seriously concerned about making the mall area ‘walkable’? That is just sheer silliness on a grand scale. Just put the dang drive-thru in, make it a drive-thru zone or something and classify parts of the city either ‘foot traffic’ or ‘car traffic’ dominant and be done.

I don’t really care for the company’s politics, but to me that doesn’t entirely rule my decision to not go there. I tried their food years ago when I was visiting the South and found it not very special. But if it’s a childhood or home memory for someone, I can see why it would be loved.

July 19, 2013 at 7:12 am / Reply / Quote and reply


Sarah

So whatever happened with this? Comments about the variance were due by Aug. 2, but I haven’t heard a peep (no pun intended) about the story since. Any word?

September 13, 2013 at 11:23 am / Reply / Quote and reply


thackerspeedRegistered

Why does Tacoma’s best & brightest citizens love to dine at Chick-Fil-A?

‘Cause the dining room ain’t got no hate baiters.

January 1, 2014 at 10:45 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


Mike

I personally can’t wait to have a chik-fil-a they have some of te best chicken sandwiches I’ve ever had, them and zaxbys. Personally I’m for gay marriage but to judge a buisness on what the founders personal beliefs r, come on ppl. Their food is great, but it would suck to have someone in the family with a penut allergy

January 20, 2014 at 5:15 pm / Reply / Quote and reply


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